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lol I get periods! i'm a man I always have been a man and I don't literally have mensturation cycle. But for ages I couldn't understand why but I always got very tired, depressed and overly "affected" by everything. It took ages to figure out part of my energy need revolves around being out with friends and a certain time of the month like clock work I run out of money to go partying. bam! energy need.

but no aggression. If you live with a woman who has periods maybe you should pay attention to whether your rage comes on after hers or around the smae time. There are so many factors!

barring all mundane ones and energy ones many people claim to be highly astologically affected by the moon. thus you're not alone.

[I've seen the stories on the donor sites/forums from the ones who DO feel taken for granted or as if they are nothing more than food]

And I hardly see how working on creating an "Appreciation Day" with the work of setting up polls, gathering feedback from multiple sources remotely counts as moping online.

And I hardly see how working on creating an "Appreciation Day" with the work of setting up polls, gathering feedback from multiple sources remotely counts as moping online either.

So I have no idea where you got that from.

Unless you are referring to my line "Mope about it online" then you misunderstood.

Please reread these two quotes in sequence:

One would hope, but I've seen the stories on the donor sites/forums from the ones who DO feel taken for granted or as if they are nothing more than food. Anyway, Mothers Day likewise isn't needed in most healthy families, but does that make it any less appreciated?

Vampire/Donor relationships are just that, Relationships.

Most likely in situations like that, even if there was an "Appreciation Day" they would still be taken for granted.

I find it unlikely things would change in those kind of relationships just because some day in October says to.

If people are being taken for granted, then they need to rethink those relationships and act accordingly.

Not mope about it online.

Yes that is what I was refering to. Of course now I am hoping that you don't mean that all of the people that posted that they felt taken for granted are moping on line. Is it possible that some of them are, yes absolutely. But unless you know the individuals it becomes very hard to know which ones are venting while having other conversations elsewhere and which ones are moping.

And truth be told I never really understood why you included the line about moping online anyhow.

Raven

[I've seen the stories on the donor sites/forums from the ones who DO feel taken for granted or as if they are nothing more than food]

And I hardly see how working on creating an "Appreciation Day" with the work of setting up polls, gathering feedback from multiple sources remotely counts as moping online.

And I hardly see how working on creating an "Appreciation Day" with the work of setting up polls, gathering feedback from multiple sources remotely counts as moping online either.

So I have no idea where you got that from.

Unless you are referring to my line "Mope about it online" then you misunderstood.

Please reread these two quotes in sequence:

One would hope, but I've seen the stories on the donor sites/forums from the ones who DO feel taken for granted or as if they are nothing more than food. Anyway, Mothers Day likewise isn't needed in most healthy families, but does that make it any less appreciated?

Vampire/Donor relationships are just that, Relationships.

Most likely in situations like that, even if there was an "Appreciation Day" they would still be taken for granted.

I find it unlikely things would change in those kind of relationships just because some day in October says to.

If people are being taken for granted, then they need to rethink those relationships and act accordingly.

Not mope about it online.

Vampire/Donor relationships are just that, Relationships.

Most likely in situations like that, even if there was an "Appreciation Day" they would still be taken for granted.

I find it unlikely things would change in those kind of relationships just because some day in October says to.

If people are being taken for granted, then they need to rethink those relationships and act accordingly.

Not mope about it online.

We would sincerely hope that the people organizing this don't believe that having an "Appreciation Day" would somehow magically fix all vampire/donor relationships in which one side or the other are taken for granted. Or feel they are taken for granted. Because not only do you have the relationships where one party or the other is taken for granted by the other, you also have those who feel they are taken for granted when they are not, or those who feel their role is taken for granted by those around them in the community. And those last two are something having an "Appreciation Day" just might be able to address. In the one case by spurring conversations so that the one that feels they are taken for granted will come to understand they aren't. In the other, by virtue of it being a communal day, it then also will in part be seen as a communal voice of appreciation stating that the role and person matters.

And I hardly see how working on creating an "Appreciation Day" with the work of setting up polls, gathering feedback from multiple sources remotely counts as moping online.

Raven

Vampire/Donor relationships are just that, Relationships.

Most likely in situations like that, even if there was an "Appreciation Day" they would still be taken for granted.

I find it unlikely things would change in those kind of relationships just because some day in October says to.

If people are being taken for granted, then they need to rethink those relationships and act accordingly.

Not mope about it online.

See, and thats the general impression of what I'm getting.

The majority of people that are all over this, are precisely FOR it, for that reason...

It's simply not needed, in most "healthy" donor/vampire relationships.

One would hope, but I've seen the stories on the donor sites/forums from the ones who DO feel taken for granted or as if they are nothing more than food. Anyway, Mothers Day likewise isn't needed in most healthy families, but does that make it any less appreciated?

[relationships]

Not precisely...more like an appreciation day within the individual vampire/donor relationships. Think Mothers Day/Fathers Day. If you have a donor (or a vampire), you do something nice for 'em on that day. But the entire world doesn't do a holiday or massive parade-y thing. So even if such a thing were created, I doubt it would turn into a community-wide holiday/celebration (except from the n00bs and ones going a leetle over the top with things just to "fit in" or because they looooooove the community so much).

See, and thats the general impression of what I'm getting.

The majority of people that are all over this, are precisely FOR it, for that reason...

It's simply not needed, in most "healthy" donor/vampire relationships.

[relationships]

What can I appreciate from someone that directly comes from being a Vampire?

Actually, most of the support I heard re: a Vampire Appreciation Day came from donors wanting to show appreciation for the vamps they knew or to whom they donated (as some donors feel like the vamps provide a service to them, it's not just a one-sided thing). Similarly that Donor Appreciation Day would be vamps showing appreciation to their donors specifically. Like Valentine's Day; most people don't celebrate lovers everywhere, only the ones with whom they're involved.

On second thought, I can appreciate the Vampiric archetype for putting Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and Antonio Banderas all in the same movie.

*giggle*

I assume this is meant as an appreciation day within the vampire/donor community....

Not precisely...more like an appreciation day within the individual vampire/donor relationships. Think Mothers Day/Fathers Day. If you have a donor (or a vampire), you do something nice for 'em on that day. But the entire world doesn't do a holiday or massive parade-y thing. So even if such a thing were created, I doubt it would turn into a community-wide holiday/celebration (except from the n00bs and ones going a leetle over the top with things just to "fit in" or because they looooooove the community so much).

Voted no, for the same reasons as Cesare.

I assume this is meant as an appreciation day within the vampire/donor community....

Donor appreciation day within the community would be a great idea, but a community doesn't come out and say "hey, appreciate me". I think this is something one group offers up in recognition of another, other wise you are just creating a day to make others notice you. Now if Donors want to organize and recognize the vamps in their lives thats up to them, and would require separate polls.

Now if someone wanted to set up a pride day, where those comfortable can plan on being more obvious as to their condition in an effort to bring awareness and the opportunity for understanding to begin within their broader community.. great. It gives vamps the choice to participate or not, but that is different to me than an appreciation day.

[person]

Because I can appreciate what Donors do- I can appreciate what Teachers do- I can appreciate what Nurses do.

Do we have a Diabetic Appreciation Day?

No.

Because we appreciate the person for who they are, not for the issue/disease/affliction they suffer from, and the related symptoms.

What can I appreciate from someone that directly comes from being a Vampire?

Glittery Sparklez on sunny days?

On second thought, I can appreciate the Vampiric archetype for putting Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and Antonio Banderas all in the same movie.

That is the sole reason we should have Vampire Appreciation Day.

But even then, what are we supposed to do on that day?

Wear a super sized ankh with the words "I'm a Vampire. It's Vampire Appreciation Day. Appreciate Me. kkthxbai."

It's just all to very egocentric for me, but I guess Vampirism is a little about that too.

(I'm adding an "LOL" here so that I don't come off as a RICH, because that's not my intention. More along the lines of snarky playful sarcasm.)